Ugh.. I, ah... I probably should have put this somewhere else... xD But, here it goes...
A good friend of mine whom I have been close to, dated and been intimate with on-and-off for a few years now and whom is quite aware of my interest and involvement in the D/s lifestyle has asked me to help him stick to his goals of working out and taking better care of himself... by forcing it on him and developing a reward-and-punishment system. 0.o
I'm actually very flattered, not to mention excited about the idea of letting my sadistic side run a bit wild, hehe, and I would love to be able to help him in this manner, but the problem is, I'm not sure he'd be able to really take it seriously. In fact, the only thing keeping me from taking him as a potential bottom is that he doesn't believe he could be serious about the whole thing in the end, as we have discussed it multiple times.
I completely understand his uncertainties, of course, it's just not something he's used to or knows anything about, but he seems awfully set in wanting me to do this for him. I'm just worried about how to come up with ways to make sure he was sticking to these plans and what exactly I'd do if he didn't without coming off as silly or insecure..
Basically, my questions to all the owners, Masters and Mistresses on here would be: How would you make your sub/pet work out? How would you reward them, and how would you punish them?
I know it's ultimately up to the parties involved how they handle certain situations and whatnot, but any suggestions and/or advice from anybody would be appreciated! ^.^
-- Edited by Joli Minou on Sunday 15th of March 2009 05:06:45 PM
-- Edited by Joli Minou on Sunday 15th of March 2009 05:07:24 PM
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*giggles* I can give my thoughts, but...mrow. I'm aware my views on d/s type stuff sometimes don't synch up with most other people's, so I try not to answer every post looking for advice lest I sound simultaneously ALL-KNOWING and incredibly stuck up *blushes and covers nose with paw*
That said, I do have thoughts! Just...not thoughts I think you'd appreciate. So...yes! *covers nose with a few more paws, enlisting some stuffed animal paws to help*
My thoughts run sort of along the lines of:
If he's not into d/s in some form, this whole plan probably won't work. They say you can't help those who won't help themselves, you know? I'd direct you to the thread we have here asking how on earth males can be submissive. I don't think it's a gender specific thing, but to someone who just doesn't have the submissive instinct in them, if you try to force them to do something they don't truly want to do, they're probably either going to find it funny, get annoyed, or just start lying and manipulating you ("Sure, I did my 25 push-ups," while thinking, She has no way of knooooooowing.)
I'd also watch out for this just becoming a huge trial for you. It shouldn't just become a case of him getting the services of a professional trainer AND a professional dominatrix for free, or YOUR probably going to get annoyed. You deserve to get something from him (Unless you are really a pure sadist and he's consented to let you hurt him as punishment and this is really enough to satisfy you, of course.)
If none of that becomes a problem, I can actually move on to trying to answer your actual question. I'm thinking, I have read articles about personal trainer dominatrices. Umm...here: http://dir.salon.com/story/sex/feature/2002/10/25/slavercise/print.html Though, uh...I'd tone things down from the level in the article, of course. Still...Exercise hurts, right? At least, that's the reason I don't do it as much as I should: it's thoroughly unpleasant. I'd probably concentrate on that fact. If he's consented to allow you to hurt him a little and you don't feel he's pushing himself (i.e., hurting himself) hard enough through exercise, you could fill in the gaps yourself. *covers her nose a bit more* Like...working out feels bad. BUT! Things are going to feel bad for him whether he works out or not, so he might as well work out.
A-alternately, totally different route to travel: I know I can always cope better with pain when I'm turned on. If you two have been intimate in the past, and you're comfortable with it, if you get him turned on a little while he's exercising (e.g., by looking as hot as you do in your avatar), that would probably allow him to work out harder than usual without it feeling like such a drag. If you go with this route, I'd definitely say throw in some service-related punishments (either stuff like having him do chores for you, or, if you're comfortable with it, perhaps even sexual favors), because...well, I know I personally would start to feel majorly used, otherwise, if I were getting him turned on all the time and he wasn't doing anything for me.
Of course, as you say, this all has to be personalized. Maybe there's a certain punishment he had in mind which you could use (or purposely avoid, if he suggests a punishment he secretely loves). Maybe there's a certain kink you have that he can easily fulfil. E.g., I have a huge thing for men in women's underwear *blush* If an attractive guy wanted me to play dominatrix for free while he wore women's underwear, I'd be far less likely to feel used. If you have something like that that you can make him do that will punish him and make you happy, definitely use that.
So! Now you have a WAAAAAAAAAAY TLDR response.
*creeps off to go hide under some stuffed animals*
Hehehehehe! *creeps over and pounces on Janet, offering a bear-hug* I really appreciated all that, it's very well thought-out, and very helpful! Thank you so much! ^.^
That's all I needed, really. xD
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Also, depending on the exercise being done you could inflict punishment for lackluster performance, most particularly running on the treadmill. A riding crop or slender stalk of bamboo can do wonders... "run faster, damn you!" Of course, slight modifications are required for other exercises, such as sitting on a chair while he does his pushups so you've got a better angle for swinging. But on the whole, keep Janet's post in mind...damn that was good.
Also, stationary bikes are good for this. Most have some sort of RPM/Distance/Progress display. This makes things super easy! Fall below the the target range, punishment...every X number of minutes (I'd suggest 5 to start with, work towards 20) its reward time. Also each session, you raise the target range by a small increment.
-- Edited by Sui Juris Cattus on Sunday 22nd of March 2009 05:11:34 PM