okay here is the thing i have my BDSM Mistress and we both have a Gorean Mistress named Jarly she also owns my dad i know weird ass **** but still i was wondering if someone could enlighten me on this whole thing as i am kind of new and is currently undergoing training with my Mistress as Gorean slaves and i will admit i love new things but from what i read im kind scared by this whole thing *curls up shivering in my kitten corner* should i be worried about what will happen i know jarly very well and i know she wouldnt hurt a fly unless it bugged her half to death
I can understand why you're scared by the whole thing. Most people who like to RP Gor in real life take it to some kind of extreme. I'll quote some text from actual Gor books so you can see the silly Sci-Fi and terrible writing. Its fun!
Earth girls have a reputation on Gor of being among the lowest and hottest of slaves. There are doubtless various reasons for this. Perhaps one is that Earth girls are alien to Gor and have no Home Stones. They are thus subjected to unmitigated predation and total domination. They are slave animals, completely. Gorean men, accordingly, treat them as such. In turn, of course, their womanhood is reborn and blossoms, as it can only in a situation in which the order of nature both obtains and flourishes. A second reason, I suspect, why Earth girls make such astoundingly desirable slaves is their backgrounds. In their native environment they encounter few but psychologically and sexually crippled men, men whose merest intuitions of their blood rights are likely to be reproductively conditioned, internally administered shock and anxieties, or externally administered sanctions of censorship, suppression, ridicule and denunciation, imposed by those who are perhaps only a bit more rigid and fearful than themselves. In such a world, largely the ideological products of superstition and hysteria, it is difficult for manhood to exist, even dormantly. Accordingly, when an Earth female finds herself translated to Gor, she finds herself for the first time in the presence of large numbers of men to whom nature and power are not anathema. Moreover, she is likely to find herself belonging to them. Beyond this, of course, is the culture itself, for all its possible defects and faults, which is one which has been constructed to be congenial to the natural biological order, and neither antithetical nor contradictory to it. The culture has not suppressed the biotruths of human nature, but found a place for them.
LoL tastic. See also: anything about Gor on SecondLife.
-- Edited by w1ntermute at 02:18, 2008-11-13
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i agree with you but i would like you to say that to Jarlys face she defends this lifestyle like a religon i like the aspect she puts it in she dosent punish unless she has to wich with me and my dad is never since i am a kitty and she takes a likeing to felines being one herself and my dad as well he is a furry and a lion weird i know but i live with it from what i have read there is no safe word my kink isnt important and most of all there is no safe sane and senseual but i know she wont do anything with me yet im still in trainingand she wont do anything with my Mistress unless there is pictures or a video
Basically, you'll be a thing. No better than a tool, and probably won't be seen as useful as one. If she claims to be such a "gorean" that is. As for the rest.....I'm soooooo keeping my opinions to myself!
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I would happily debate the merits of treating somebody like a spoon or fork. Its not so much that the slavery is so objectionable in general, its the extent that people take it, Gorean or not. I get that those who like being treated like an object will seek out somebody to treat them like an object, whatever floats your boat I guess... I'm not in the frame of mind to go off on a tangent about my opinions on that.
What I find troubling are the great majority of stories I hear about Gor, and how close it resembles scientology in the hypocricy and religious following they both garner.
Let me clarify: there is nothing wrong with roleplaying, nothing wrong with fetishes, blah blah blah... When it becomes a lifestyle, thats when you have to take a critical eye and examine if its really a good thing for you, and them.
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if you call cutting your pay to 249,999 bucks to avoid a tax cut going to galt's gulch, i'll call wearing a che shirt bought from hot topic a violent communist coup
well with taking roleplaying to a lifestyle you got furries i am proud to be such i love being a slave but she dosent treat me as a tool i am her kitten like she treats me exactly like a kitten is treated and i like that now Mistress has just left her service finally but im staying i love jarly ina diffrent way from Mistress Katt it hurts alot more when i am not with Mistress katt but it hurts when jarly isnt on either im still alittle scared of the whole gorean thing i have read and is reading up on it there are some things that jarly does break since she adds alittle furry touch with a dash of BDSM with it to create somthing diffrent but at the same time is gorean well in the meantime i guess i cant always use the help and advice you guys got and i will listen since as i said before im new to this
The most I can advise is to do your own research. Find out all you can about the gor lifestyle for yourself. Knowledge is power after all. It will help you in the long run to know just what it is, and what is typically involved, and if it is really something you want to get in to.
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Gorean "lifestyle" is a huge step - even for someone who is a full-time Dom or Sub.
all i can actualy give as advice is to read the books, you can find the books of Gor online in .txt format, or a bookstore/libery.
in my eyes it is probably the single best way to learn about "gorean" BDSM.
if you have specific questions about it, i'd be happy to help, but generaly you should read the books. (or at least some of them to get a understanding)
From what I've done and picked up about Goreans it is the single WORST s&M lifestyle for a kitty-boy/kitty-girl There is almost NO real emotion and affection in its style. It is a raw SLAVE style and not much for a pet.
But it has been a few years since I've gone over it. I just remember how terrible and degrading it was. There was no affection to it at all. So unless its been changed in the decade since I've read the rules... Kitti-boy should run away.
edit: I know this came off harsh, I didn't mean it to. I'm just expressing my opinion and in no way saying my truth is the absolute truth.
-- Edited by Matt-Sama at 19:23, 2009-01-05
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Well that depends on the "Gorean". Some can seperate the reality from the fantasy aspect of it. They know that in reality things are much differnt then in the books. If you find a Master or Mistress who understands common sence and logic. Things could go well. I see myself as a mixture, Im Gorean, however I also mix Bdsm, and D/s into my lifestyle. Where Gor fails in reality, the other two take it's place. As for seeing girls as objects, thats not the case for me. I see a slave/Sub/kitten etc as being valuble, precious. After all they are doing there best to please, and why shouldn't love and respect be returned to them? I know I'm differnt then most though, but just wanted to let it be known that while (many) of them might see girls as objects. There is a group of us that have an alternate view.
Well that depends on the "Gorean". Some can seperate the reality from the fantasy aspect of it. They know that in reality things are much differnt then in the books. If you find a Master or Mistress who understands common sence and logic. Things could go well. I see myself as a mixture, Im Gorean, however I also mix Bdsm, and D/s into my lifestyle. Where Gor fails in reality, the other two take it's place. As for seeing girls as objects, thats not the case for me. I see a slave/Sub/kitten etc as being valuble, precious. After all they are doing there best to please, and why shouldn't love and respect be returned to them? I know I'm differnt then most though, but just wanted to let it be known that while (many) of them might see girls as objects. There is a group of us that have an alternate view.
Peace and love to you all.
It is very comforting to know that not all Goreans are the same. *nodnod* ^_^
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